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Will our dog go against us?
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:07 pm
by YoungGran2be
Hi, I’m new to all this. My eldest son has paranoid schizophrenia and uses drugs, his girlfriend is pregnant, also uses drugs and she had a baby some years ago removed from her care for same reasons SS are involved this time.
Their SW came to meet me, my husband and our 11yr old son. She left happy saying we should make a start clearing out our box room (baby due Sept and likely to be poorly/go through withdrawal) I’m assuming this was a viability assessment she did ask a number of questions and at the end said she’s happy to recommend us to the kinship team.
Our dog (Olde Time English Bulldog) was at doggy daycare. Hes a very friendly boy, he’s a big boy though at 35kg. He’s very chilled out with us but does get over excited when visitors come, we tend to crate him till he settles. We are very responsible dog owners, our dog is a part of our family and we would not be prepared to break our son’s heart to rehome him. Given this, I’m worried. It would make my day to hear from anyone with a big dog passing kinship assessment.
I’m also curious, do they request your medical records as part of kinship assessment. Just wondering how in-depth it all is.
Many thanks
Re: Will our dog go against us?
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:50 am
by Robin D
Hi YoungGran2Be and welcome here.
I regret I am unable to answer either of your questions in detail, but thought that after a couple of day's you might wonder if you were being ignored. The FRG advisor is very busy but I am sure she will be along shortly to answer them in detail.
As regards your dog, my view would be that it should not be an issue unless it demonstrates that it's not properly under control during any visits or assessment or has a history of biting. The medical records is a little mote complex. I know for adoption you have to have a medical examination but do not know if that's the same for a SGO. Ours were done by our GP who had a form to complete. so while I don't think Childrens Services have any right to see your medical records per se the doctor had to put down anything that was relevant to our ability to bring up the children until their eighteenth birthdays. Having a life limiting or terminal condition would be clearly relevant, but having had tonsillitis as a child would not be.
I hope this helps, but as said, hopefully Suzie will be along to answer more fully.
Best wishes ..... Robin
Re: Will our dog go against us?
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:16 pm
by Suzie, FRG Adviser
YoungGran2be wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:07 pm
Hi, I’m new to all this. My eldest son has paranoid schizophrenia and uses drugs, his girlfriend is pregnant, also uses drugs and she had a baby some years ago removed from her care for same reasons SS are involved this time.
Their SW came to meet me, my husband and our 11yr old son. She left happy saying we should make a start clearing out our box room (baby due Sept and likely to be poorly/go through withdrawal) I’m assuming this was a viability assessment she did ask a number of questions and at the end said she’s happy to recommend us to the kinship team.
Our dog (Olde Time English Bulldog) was at doggy daycare. Hes a very friendly boy, he’s a big boy though at 35kg. He’s very chilled out with us but does get over excited when visitors come, we tend to crate him till he settles. We are very responsible dog owners, our dog is a part of our family and we would not be prepared to break our son’s heart to rehome him. Given this, I’m worried. It would make my day to hear from anyone with a big dog passing kinship assessment.
I’m also curious, do they request your medical records as part of kinship assessment. Just wondering how in-depth it all is.
Many thanks
Dear YoungGran2be
Thank you for your questions and welcome to our Kinship Forum. I apologise for the delay in responding.
Firstly,
here is a link to our guide called Initial Family and Friends Care Assessment: A good practice guide, this guide I think, will supply you with the answers you may need about kinship assessments, including health information on page 17.
For your information our webpages about
child protection (where parents misuse drugs),
care and related proceedings ‘will’ give you insight about what your son and his partner may experience prior to and after the birth of their child. Our webpages for
Kinship Carers may be useful to you too.
On the matter of your family pet, I cannot say what children’s services might say or suggest about them, though it may be wise to discuss your pet when the social worker visits again.
Best wishes
Suzie
Re: Will our dog go against us?
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:21 pm
by YoungGran2be
Robin D wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:50 am
Hi YoungGran2Be and welcome here.
I regret I am unable to answer either of your questions in detail, but thought that after a couple of day's you might wonder if you were being ignored. The FRG advisor is very busy but I am sure she will be along shortly to answer them in detail.
As regards your dog, my view would be that it should not be an issue unless it demonstrates that it's not properly under control during any visits or assessment or has a history of biting. The medical records is a little mote complex. I know for adoption you have to have a medical examination but do not know if that's the same for a SGO. Ours were done by our GP who had a form to complete. so while I don't think Childrens Services have any right to see your medical records
per se the doctor had to put down anything that was relevant to our ability to bring up the children until their eighteenth birthdays. Having a life limiting or terminal condition would be clearly relevant, but having had tonsillitis as a child would not be.
I hope this helps, but as said, hopefully Suzie will be along to answer more fully.
Best wishes ..... Robin
Thanks Robin,
Our dog will jump at visitors wanting them to give him lots of cuddles/fusses. He’ll be so excited & struggle to calm so we tend to crate him when people who aren’t keen on excitable dogs come round.
I might start recording g how calm/docile he is when it’s just us at home. It would be devastating if a SW decided we couldn’t have our grandchild just based on how our dog is when strangers come over as it’s not a true reflection of him. He’s friendly with other dogs, kids & strangers he’s just extremely giddy wanting fusses.
I’ve had spine surgery years ago. I work full time with autistic teens and was recently re-injured by a child at work who was in a meltdown. I have a risk assessment now & I am in receipt of PIP. With alterations to how I pace myself & a very supportive hubby who does anything that’s too heavy for me I think we do well. I just hope SS can see that. The fact I’m still in full time employment working with children I hope will go in our favour.
It’s just such a stressful process.
Thank for replying. X
Re: Will our dog go against us?
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:27 pm
by YoungGran2be
Suzie, FRG Adviser wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:16 pm
YoungGran2be wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:07 pm
Hi, I’m new to all this. My eldest son has paranoid schizophrenia and uses drugs, his girlfriend is pregnant, also uses drugs and she had a baby some years ago removed from her care for same reasons SS are involved this time.
Their SW came to meet me, my husband and our 11yr old son. She left happy saying we should make a start clearing out our box room (baby due Sept and likely to be poorly/go through withdrawal) I’m assuming this was a viability assessment she did ask a number of questions and at the end said she’s happy to recommend us to the kinship team.
Our dog (Olde Time English Bulldog) was at doggy daycare. Hes a very friendly boy, he’s a big boy though at 35kg. He’s very chilled out with us but does get over excited when visitors come, we tend to crate him till he settles. We are very responsible dog owners, our dog is a part of our family and we would not be prepared to break our son’s heart to rehome him. Given this, I’m worried. It would make my day to hear from anyone with a big dog passing kinship assessment.
I’m also curious, do they request your medical records as part of kinship assessment. Just wondering how in-depth it all is.
Many thanks
Dear YoungGran2be
Thank you for your questions and welcome to our Kinship Forum. I apologise for the delay in responding.
Firstly,
here is a link to our guide called Initial Family and Friends Care Assessment: A good practice guide, this guide I think, will supply you with the answers you may need about kinship assessments, including health information on page 17.
For your information our webpages about
child protection (where parents misuse drugs),
care and related proceedings ‘will’ give you insight about what your son and his partner may experience prior to and after the birth of their child. Our webpages for
Kinship Carers may be useful to you too.
On the matter of your family pet, I cannot say what children’s services might say or suggest about them, though it may be wise to discuss your pet when the social worker visits again.
Best wishes
Suzie
Hi Suzie,
Thanks for your reply. I’ll go have a look at the forum you linked that will be most helpful I’m sure.
They had the first Pre-Proceedings meeting and my son seemed to feel more positive after it but my husband & I are still braced for the probability that baby is likely to come here for some time.
Yes we will definitely discuss it next time we see the SS. Last we heard she was just waiting for our DBS checks to come through before passing our details to the kinship team.
Re: Will our dog go against us?
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:46 pm
by Childrencomefirst
Hi I've just read your post about your dog we were concerned about our dog when we went through our sgo assessment for our grandson but honestly we need not of worried we have an American bulldog x who barked at the social worker doing the pet assessment and also gets very excited and jumps about constantly but they saw she wasn't aggressive and to be honest the pet assessor are more to make sure the dog is safe to be around children and if they have any concerns they can request dog training and if they thought the dog was an aggressive breed they could call a specialist dog handler in to run another assessment the social worker said to us they'd have concerns if we had a French bulldog because of dog attacks against children but when they do the assessment on the pet they don't touch the dog they don't pull it's ears or tail or poke at him or anything that can cause the dog any harm its all really relaxed to be honest we were worrying about nothing I really hopes this helps you out