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Revoking SGO: One of my children doesn’t want to leave special guardians, but my other wants to live with me.

Blxxdbxby
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Revoking SGO: One of my children doesn’t want to leave special guardians, but my other wants to live with me.

Unread post by Blxxdbxby » Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:46 pm

I am a 23 year old mother to two daughters aged 4 and 5. My children are in an SGO with paternal grandmother because I was in care as a child so my own mother wasn’t a suitable fit to take on the role of SG. My children were put on an SGO due to my inability to leave a domestic relationship. I left the partner in 2019 and we’ve never reconciled.

My children were up until last week, spending every weekend with me overnight and unsupervised, Friday to Sunday. However, my oldest daughter refuses to leave when the grandparents come to collect her. She holds onto the door frame and cries, saying “I want mummy. I want to live with mummy” - this goes on for as long as it takes for the grandfather to just pick her up and take her to the car. So the SG contacted social services and they recommended that contact is reduced to once a fortnight, to reduce trauma to my child.

I applied for right to apply to revoke the SGO about 3 weeks ago, and I got a reply a week later, which was before contact got reduced. The grandmother didn’t support my application and wouldn’t attend MIAM meeting so I got a certificate enabling me to apply.
The judge ordered that CAFCAS write a report in 20 days.

I think I have a good chance at revoking the sgo, considering my children have had unsupervised contact for 2 years, and overnights for a year without any concerns.

But the thing is, my younger daughter, 4, doesn’t seem very bothered when she has to leave my home at the end of the weekend. And the past 3 weekends, I’ve had to pick them up from the grandparents house, and she has cried and said that she wants to stay with ‘pops’, her grandfather. However, once we leave and go to my home, she is fine and has a wonderful time.

So I’m wondering if this will cause issues in court when the judge tries to consider what is best for the child; if one child wants to live with me but the other doesn’t.

Thank you :)

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Re: Revoking SGO: One of my children doesn’t want to leave special guardians, but my other wants to live with me.

Unread post by Suzie, FRG Adviser » Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:08 pm

Dear Blxxdbxby

Welcome to the parents’ discussion board and thank you for your post. My name is Suzie and I am Family Rights Group’s online adviser. I am sorry to hear of the difficulties you and your family have experienced.

Your two daughters live with their paternal grandparents under a Special Guardianship Order (SGO) and have regular contact with you which until recently was every weekend including overnights. This has recently been reduced to once a fortnight , on the advice of the Special Guardianship Support team, as your older daughter was distressed on leaving you and states that she wants to live with you. Your younger daughter, on the other hand, is reluctant to leave the Special Guardians when you pick her up although is fine afterwards.

You have already applied to end the SGO as the grandparents refused mediation. You have made considerable changes in your life including separating from a violent ex-partner and you have maintained very good contact with your daughters. A social worker from CAFCASS has been asked to write a report. You are wondering how the court will decide what is best for the children, bearing in mind that the girls appear to have different views about who they would like to live with.

You don’t state if you have a solicitor helping you with the application or if you are applying yourself as a litigant in person. If you don’t have a solicitor you may wish to speak to Child Law Advice as they provide advice about private law matters, which this is. We advise on children’s services’ issues.

The social worker appointed by the court is responsible for making recommendations for what is best for the children. You may find this information provided by Child Law Advice on CAFCASS helpful; it explains more about the role of the CAFCASS social worker and more importantly what they take into consideration when writing reports to assist the court in making decisions. The social worker and the court will always consider the child’s welfare to be the paramount consideration. As part of this they will consider the needs of each of the children, their individual wishes and feelings and also their sibling needs. This will include listening to their views on their current living arrangements and future arrangements. It will be for the court however to decide what is in their best interests, based on their welfare. It will be important for the CAFCASS worker to assess the children’s needs carefully and to let you know what they will recommend to the court. They will also consider the current contact arrangements, how they have been going, recent changes and why.

By taking the matter back to court, your daughters’ circumstances will be reviewed and the court will consider if there needs to be changes made i.e. to end the order or to change the current contact arrangements. Unfortunately, it is not possible to say what the outcome will be and it is not an area that we advise on. Do ask your solicitor if you have one to talk this through with you or discus with a specialist legal advice service, as above.

I hope that the right decision is made for the children and that the changes you have made and sustained are fully recognised as well as your commitment to your daughters.

Best wishes

Suzie

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