can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
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gemsmom of8
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can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
I have 7 beautiful children in care of social services atm going though court proceeding now im totally heartbroken and
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ange301126
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
Dear gemsmom,
It can work. They will have to consider their father as a possible carer (for your seven babies) and If you and he cooperate together it will help.Now you are free from the domestic violence and you are working with the freedom programme and if you join in with everything else they want you to do it can only get better. Support from him,his family and your own family support network can only be good for the children now you have accepted the ex father of your unborn did wrong and finished with him. The court will decide in the end and if CS and you and the father of the seven babies all help one another , it is a positive thing. Keep up the good work, chill down and look after yourself and your unborn and all will come right in the end.
Don't forget,the children would have had to have been cared for by someone else anyway while you gave birth anyway and whatever so many babies are very hard for you to look after alone.Meantime keep in touch with the FRG and Suzie will give you all the best advice and support of your rights.Good luck for you and the children.
It can work. They will have to consider their father as a possible carer (for your seven babies) and If you and he cooperate together it will help.Now you are free from the domestic violence and you are working with the freedom programme and if you join in with everything else they want you to do it can only get better. Support from him,his family and your own family support network can only be good for the children now you have accepted the ex father of your unborn did wrong and finished with him. The court will decide in the end and if CS and you and the father of the seven babies all help one another , it is a positive thing. Keep up the good work, chill down and look after yourself and your unborn and all will come right in the end.
Don't forget,the children would have had to have been cared for by someone else anyway while you gave birth anyway and whatever so many babies are very hard for you to look after alone.Meantime keep in touch with the FRG and Suzie will give you all the best advice and support of your rights.Good luck for you and the children.
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gemsmom of8
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
3 children with him but only thing is today I got told by ss they r going for long-
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ange301126
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
Dear gemsmom,
How long ago did the Court make the Interim Care Order?
Did the Court order assessments and have they been done yet?
Has a children's Guardian seen you and done an assessment?
Why won't they allow you contact with your babies,what have you done to deserve that?
Please try and answer all those questions one by one and we can get a better idea of what is going on.
Write down in a book everything they say to you such as "they are going for long-term fostering and adoption for your babies" and put down the date they said it.If you say they are lying have you got the paperwork to prove when they first got involved? Dig it out and keep it safe if you have.
How long ago did the Court make the Interim Care Order?
Did the Court order assessments and have they been done yet?
Has a children's Guardian seen you and done an assessment?
Why won't they allow you contact with your babies,what have you done to deserve that?
Please try and answer all those questions one by one and we can get a better idea of what is going on.
Write down in a book everything they say to you such as "they are going for long-term fostering and adoption for your babies" and put down the date they said it.If you say they are lying have you got the paperwork to prove when they first got involved? Dig it out and keep it safe if you have.
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gemsmom of8
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
the only proof I have in them not being invold for that long with ss is that Ive had no problems when I have give birth to my babys I had no visits of ss and no problems taking them home with me its been 9weeks since the kids were taken I wasn't even told I could
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ange301126
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
Dear gemsmom,
Did the Court ask for a psychological assessment,an independent parenting assessment or a paediatric assessment of the children?
You see the ss might have put the cart before the horse,sometimes they do.Really, they are supposed to try their very best to find a way to keep the kids at home with their family before they start 'going for' adoption or fostering.In fact, that is what the law expects them to do.How can they without getting you, your ex father of three of the babies and other family assessed?
Do you think you might be confused a bit or are you quite sure you haven't even met the Guardian yet? I thought the Guardian was supposed to see you before the hearing when the care-order was issued.I believe that is the right way it should be done.
I am a bit concerned that the ss ( now known as the CS) are breaking with the legal procedures so tell us more. Do you think they have tried to help you and the children? Have they given a clear outline of what changes are expected of you? You say
You did not know you could oppose it. They are supposed to tell you you can and tell you where to get advocacy.If they didn't they were wrong,wrong,wronguOr do you think they are more interested in getting your children off you?
Sorry for all these questions but it is very bad of them if they don't go by the book because they can give the court the wrong idea and that's just not fair on you and your babies is it? Answer all the questions I ask you then the FRG can work out if they have walked all over your family rights and advise you what to do.
Did the Court ask for a psychological assessment,an independent parenting assessment or a paediatric assessment of the children?
You see the ss might have put the cart before the horse,sometimes they do.Really, they are supposed to try their very best to find a way to keep the kids at home with their family before they start 'going for' adoption or fostering.In fact, that is what the law expects them to do.How can they without getting you, your ex father of three of the babies and other family assessed?
Do you think you might be confused a bit or are you quite sure you haven't even met the Guardian yet? I thought the Guardian was supposed to see you before the hearing when the care-order was issued.I believe that is the right way it should be done.
I am a bit concerned that the ss ( now known as the CS) are breaking with the legal procedures so tell us more. Do you think they have tried to help you and the children? Have they given a clear outline of what changes are expected of you? You say
You did not know you could oppose it. They are supposed to tell you you can and tell you where to get advocacy.If they didn't they were wrong,wrong,wronguOr do you think they are more interested in getting your children off you?
Sorry for all these questions but it is very bad of them if they don't go by the book because they can give the court the wrong idea and that's just not fair on you and your babies is it? Answer all the questions I ask you then the FRG can work out if they have walked all over your family rights and advise you what to do.
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gemsmom of8
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
no I haven't met the guardian and i think the court ask4 independent assessment of me but the ss have said
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gemsmom of8
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
what is a psychological assessment and is a paediatric assessment is where my children have a full medical the did the medical on my children but I have no reports I don't know what t
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ange301126
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
Dear gemsmom,
A psychological assessment is where the Court gets a shrink to visit you at home to ask questions to assess your attitude and mental abilities.He will also do a questionaire test on you which he can use to help him.The Court wants to know whether you fully acknowledge the concerns and if you have changed or not. If he thinks you need some type of treatment or training,he will say so and give the court an idea of how long it will take.If he thinks you are a crazy lady and can't be trusted with children, he will say so and it isn't good for you.Did you see a psychologist or not or are you still waiting to see him or her?
A paediatric assessment is not a strip down medical of the kids, it is where a consultant assesses them to compare them with other children.He or she looks at all their medical records and has a quick look at them.He has to work out whether they are normal or if they show signs of physical neglect or if they have or might suffer from witnessing violence.
Have you been sent a copy yet or are you still waiting?
It is important because if CS are telling you they want the children all to be taken away from you before the assessments are done they are jumping the gun! It raises the possibility they are not really interested in keeping the family together whatever because they just do not like you or they are biased against you for another reason.
According to the law they should be aiming to keep the family together if possible if neccesary by supporting you and supervising you.It just isn't legal to set out their stall to remove the children permanently without giving you a chance.
It happened to a woman on here last year. Sometimes social workers will say or do anything to get their way . In the end the FRG helped her and she got her baby back . Just like you she had chucked the man out and got him sent to prison but social worker wouldn't believe it and said she couldn't be trusted.
I am just an ordinary parent like you, the real advisor is Suzie and she will be able to help you more than me.
Important: keep writing and tell us everything that happens and which has already happened.*s much as you can because Suzie and the other parents can advise you better.
Keep a record of everything from now on and keep up the good work with freedom programme. Try and get a friend or advisor to support you. If you want to fight for your babies,keep in touch with the FRG , follow their advice and help them to help you
A psychological assessment is where the Court gets a shrink to visit you at home to ask questions to assess your attitude and mental abilities.He will also do a questionaire test on you which he can use to help him.The Court wants to know whether you fully acknowledge the concerns and if you have changed or not. If he thinks you need some type of treatment or training,he will say so and give the court an idea of how long it will take.If he thinks you are a crazy lady and can't be trusted with children, he will say so and it isn't good for you.Did you see a psychologist or not or are you still waiting to see him or her?
A paediatric assessment is not a strip down medical of the kids, it is where a consultant assesses them to compare them with other children.He or she looks at all their medical records and has a quick look at them.He has to work out whether they are normal or if they show signs of physical neglect or if they have or might suffer from witnessing violence.
Have you been sent a copy yet or are you still waiting?
It is important because if CS are telling you they want the children all to be taken away from you before the assessments are done they are jumping the gun! It raises the possibility they are not really interested in keeping the family together whatever because they just do not like you or they are biased against you for another reason.
According to the law they should be aiming to keep the family together if possible if neccesary by supporting you and supervising you.It just isn't legal to set out their stall to remove the children permanently without giving you a chance.
It happened to a woman on here last year. Sometimes social workers will say or do anything to get their way . In the end the FRG helped her and she got her baby back . Just like you she had chucked the man out and got him sent to prison but social worker wouldn't believe it and said she couldn't be trusted.
I am just an ordinary parent like you, the real advisor is Suzie and she will be able to help you more than me.
Important: keep writing and tell us everything that happens and which has already happened.*s much as you can because Suzie and the other parents can advise you better.
Keep a record of everything from now on and keep up the good work with freedom programme. Try and get a friend or advisor to support you. If you want to fight for your babies,keep in touch with the FRG , follow their advice and help them to help you
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gemsmom of8
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Re: can this work in helping getting my beauiful kids back
no I haven't I've had no reports I've beg the ss and they just don't want to know I am trying t
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