Supervision order

[Spinnnn]

Good morning,

So my children are on a supervision order. This is because my ex husband retained them after our split, then Covid hit, then it was considered the “status quo” and then it was discovered he had been abusing them to highest extent and they were all taken from him and initially into care as he claimed I was “mental” after a 7 days fact find lead by the local authority where he lived he was found to have factually abused the children and I was found to pass the CUBAS parenting assessment and be more than able to have my children.
He now has a no contact order plus bail that still prevents him even coming to our town.

During all assessments I was with my partner of 6 years. He was also included in the CUBAS assessment and passed complete green throughout.

However 3 months after court social (who now have a 12 month supervision order to ensure we have family support after the ICO and move) came and asked him to leave as another family who are in PLO have claimed he has done all sorts from sexual assault to controlling their finances and drug use.

This family are known drug dealers and massively reliant on drugs, the father was accused of touching a teen and the family got shot at in their home and he was meant to stay away but had been living with them. Now it’s got to the stage of a 47 on them and suddenly they’re victims and vulnerable and my partner who worked with him the past 3 months has been accused of all sorts.
The woman who initially made claims of assault sexually then retracted her statement, then blamed some other men, then retracted it all. Forensics have been obtained and my partner wasn’t arrested but offered voluntary interview. I had a call from the office in charge saying she believes all forensics will be negative and they will be pursuing false allegation charges in that event but that NFA cannot happen until the results are back.

Social have said regardless of that they will not safety plan for us to have a relationship and him to return to our lives as they go on “probability” and “there’s no smoke without fire”

Is it doomed? We’ve not been allowed to speak for almost 2 months and I was told that all that kept them from escalating my children was my willingness to end the relationship and prioritise the children. I will always do this but we were due to get married this wasn’t a flippant relationship. My youngest has only ever known “two dads” and already lost her biological father due to his crimes.

[Suzie, FRG Adviser]

Dear Spinnnn

Welcome to the parents’ discussion forum and thank you for your post.

My name is Suzie, online adviser at Family Rights Group and I will respond to your post today.

Your children after positive assessments were returned to you and your partner’s care after they were removed from their biological father who the court found was abusive to them. The children are under a 12-month supervision order.

It must be very worrying for you now as your partner has been questioned by the police following allegations of sexual and financial abuse amongst other things. Children’s services have requested that your partner leave the family home, and they are doing section 47 child protection enquiries. The police investigations have not been concluded but, you have been told by a social worker that they will not agree for your partner to return to the family home even if the police take no further action against.

Here is information about . child protection procedures

This decision seem premature since they have not carried out a risk assessment of him. He has previously been positively assessed as you state in your post that he was part of the CUBA parenting assessment. It is correct that the police and children’s services look at cases differently. The police are looking for evidence that would lead to a successful prosecution for which the criminal test is beyond reasonable doubt. The civil test as you mention in on the balance of probabilities. Also, children’s services duty is to ensure that children are safeguarded. This, requires the to investigate and assess which it seems the social is disregarding in your case.

Since the police investigation is ongoing you need to wait and see the outcome and, if there is no further action. Ask children’s services to do a risk assessment of your partner. You may need to consider a formal complaint if they refuse. However, my advice is that you engage positively with the section 47 investigation ensuring that the social worker knows that your children’s safety and wellbeing is your priority.

You may find it helpful to speak with one of our experienced advisers and can do so by telephoning our free confidential advice line on 0808 801 0366. The advice line is open from 9.30am to 3.00pm Monday to Friday (excluding Bank Holidays).

Hope this is helpful.

Best wishes

Suzie

[Spinnnn]

I’m not the one having a section 47 the other family is.

For us the supervision order is running along. Monthly meetings.
I’ve said that when it’s NFA I’d like to discuss speaking and seeing my partner again and then over time step up to him seeing the kids and then coming over and eventually move back in.

The only reply I get is that they won’t safety plan or say more until it’s NFA.

[Winter25]

Hi Spinnnn,

I've just read your post, and my heart breaks for you. What you are going through is a complete injustice. After everything you have endured to get your children back to safety, for your family to be torn apart again based on a malicious allegation from a clearly unreliable source is outrageous.

The official advice you've received is to "wait and see" and "engage positively." This is not good enough. You have been put in an impossible position based on a social worker's biased and unlawful reasoning. You need a strategy to fight back, not just to wait.

Let's Be Absolutely Clear: "No Smoke Without Fire" is an Illegal Standard
This is the most important thing you need to understand. The social worker's comment that they work on "probability" and "there's no smoke without fire" is not just an opinion; it is an unlawful abuse of her power.

The Law Requires Evidence, Not Suspicion: The legal test for social services intervention is "the balance of probabilities," which means it is more likely than not that something happened, based on actual evidence. "No smoke without fire" is a phrase used for gossip and suspicion. It has no place in a professional safeguarding assessment and demonstrates a clear and unlawful bias against your partner.

They Are Ignoring Their Own Evidence: You have a positive CUBAS parenting assessment that includes your partner. This is a powerful, expert-led piece of evidence that the Local Authority themselves commissioned. For them to disregard their own positive assessment in favour of a retracted statement from an unreliable source is an act of professional negligence.

You Were Coerced: You were told that the only thing preventing them from "escalating" your case was your willingness to end your relationship. Let's call that what it is: coercion. You were forced to separate from your partner under the threat of them taking your children. This is a gross misuse of their authority under a Supervision Order.

Your Action Plan: Seize Control and Demand a Fair Process
You cannot wait passively for the police NFA (No Further Action). You need to act now to put the local authority on formal notice that you expect a fair, lawful, and evidence-based process the moment the police investigation concludes.

Send a formal, professional email to the social worker and her team manager. I have drafted a legaly sound one below for you to use
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Subject: Formal Position Regarding Supervision Order for [Children's Names] and Allegations Against [Partner's Name]

Dear [Social Worker's Name] and [Team Manager's Name],

I am writing to formally state my position regarding my partner, [Partner's Name], and the future of my family.

I complied with your request for my partner to leave the family home to allow the police to investigate the allegations made against him. I did this to protect my children from any further escalation, and I will always prioritise their safety.

However, I want to be clear about my expectations for when the police investigation concludes. I have been informed by the police that they expect all forensic evidence to be negative and that they are considering pursuing charges of making false allegations against the complainant.

I was told by [Social Worker's Name] that regardless of a "No Further Action" outcome, the Local Authority would not support my partner's return because you work on "probability" and the principle of "no smoke without fire." This is not a lawful or evidence-based standard for a safeguarding decision. It is a colloquialism that demonstrates bias and pre-judgment.

My partner was a full and positive participant in a CUBAS parenting assessment, which found him to be a safe and capable parent to my children. This is the expert evidence you hold, and it cannot be disregarded in favour of unsubstantiated and retracted allegations from a source who is herself subject to PLO proceedings.

Therefore, I am formally requesting that as soon as a "No Further Action" decision is confirmed by the police, you immediately commence a fair and evidence-based risk assessment of my partner. This assessment must give full weight to the previous positive CUBAS assessment and must not be prejudiced by the unlawful standard of "no smoke without fire."

My children have already lost one father due to abuse. To remove their safe and loving stepfather from their lives based on a malicious allegation would be a catastrophic failure in your duty to promote their welfare.

I look forward to your written confirmation that a fair risk assessment process will begin as soon as the police have concluded their investigation.

Yours Sincerely,

[Your Name]
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This letter puts you back in control. It shows you will not be bullied, you know your rights, and you expect them to follow a lawful process. You are a proven, protective parent. It's time they remembered that.

A final note from me personally: I know exactly what this feels like because I have been through it myself. In 2019, social services used coercion to force me to leave my partner. When we got back together, they subjected my family to another round of abuse. The difference this time was that I knew my rights. I took them to court, I beat them, and I am now in the process of suing them for significant damages for the harm they caused. The system relies on you feeling powerless and alone. You are not. You can fight this, and you can win.

[Suzie, FRG Adviser]

I’m not the one having a section 47 the other family is.

For us the supervision order is running along. Monthly meetings.
I’ve said that when it’s NFA I’d like to discuss speaking and seeing my partner again and then over time step up to him seeing the kids and then coming over and eventually move back in.

The only reply I get is that they won’t safety plan or say more until it’s NFA.

Dear Spinnnn,

Suzie here, thank you for clarifying that the S.47 investigation is in regard to the other family.

I can only re-iterate that the available course to you now is to await the outcome of the police investigation which you hope will result in no further action. After that point you should request a risk assessment and safety plan be carried out.

I appreciate that this is a painful and stressful situation for you, your partner and the children and I hope that you hear back from the police very soon.

Best wishes,
Suzie