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Avia
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Hello there I need some advice my partner is out on bail till March I did have social involvement but I don’t no but I’ve been told buy his social worker and her boss that there is no reason I can’t go down with both solicitor as well at his meeting so what I want to no is if there is nothing in place can I still visit my partner with my son if both his social worker and her boss have said it’s okay for me to go down there
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Suzie, FRG Adviser
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Re: Help
Dear Avia
Thank you for your post and welcome to the forum. My name is Suzie, I am an online adviser and will be replying to you today.
I will summarise here but if I have misunderstood, please do post again.
Your partner is on Bail for reasons not stated. You had children’s services involved but do not state in what capacity. They are no longer involved. Your partner has a social worker who has said that it is ok for you to visit your partner with your child. You do not say why your partner has a social worker.
It is difficult to provide specific advice without fuller information. For example, what the Bail conditions are. Please see HERE for government guidance on Bail. I think it would be a good idea to contact children’s services to seek their advice on this matter. If you do go down this route I suggest you ask for a written response to avoid any miscommunication. It will also give a you point of reference should you need it. I have added HERE our ‘top tips’ when working with social workers that I hope you find helpful.
Best wishes, Suzie
Thank you for your post and welcome to the forum. My name is Suzie, I am an online adviser and will be replying to you today.
I will summarise here but if I have misunderstood, please do post again.
Your partner is on Bail for reasons not stated. You had children’s services involved but do not state in what capacity. They are no longer involved. Your partner has a social worker who has said that it is ok for you to visit your partner with your child. You do not say why your partner has a social worker.
It is difficult to provide specific advice without fuller information. For example, what the Bail conditions are. Please see HERE for government guidance on Bail. I think it would be a good idea to contact children’s services to seek their advice on this matter. If you do go down this route I suggest you ask for a written response to avoid any miscommunication. It will also give a you point of reference should you need it. I have added HERE our ‘top tips’ when working with social workers that I hope you find helpful.
Best wishes, Suzie
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Avia
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Re: Help
My son was under social as things came up about his dads past abusing his siblings that’s why my son is in his care u no longer have any involvement with social services and the reason my partner is on bail is because his daughter had an accident at school and the social are trying to blame him for hurting his daughter but he took her out o the doctors and the doctor confirmed he did the right thing but taking her and also for smacking his children basically assault gbh and neglect of his children I’ve seen him with his children’ and we have been on holiday with them and them kids have everything they need they released him on bail till March as they haven’t come to a conclusion he is working with social and if not chargers are brought against him he will get his children back but he had a meeting with his solicitor and the social solicitor and the solicitor workers boss also and they all said of there is nothing in place there is no reason I can’t go on holiday because I will doing all the contact myself with my son and he won’t be out of my sight
Thanks any advice is great
Thanks any advice is great
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Suzie, FRG Adviser
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Re: Help
Dear Avia,
Thank you for the further information you have provided. I can see that you are taking time over this decision.
It’s still a good idea to discuss your plan for the holiday with your partner with children’s services as suggested above.
If I am reading your post correctly you write that your partner is on bail for charges of grievous bodily harm and neglect of his children; that his children are not living with him at present following the children’s services intervention, but he is hoping to have them back in his care in the future.
You are saying that as you will be always supervising your son when you are on holiday you can ensure his safety. You also say that it has been reported to you by your partner that both his solicitor and the solicitor representing the local authority involved with his children have advised that there are no restrictions in place that would prevent you going on the holiday with your son.
You say that if the charges against your partner are not continued your partner will have his children back in his care, but I have to point out that this is not how child protection procedures or care proceedings work.
Decisions about criminal proceedings are based on whether there is evidence available that could result in a conviction, but child protections decisions are based on whether a child has suffered or could potentially suffer significant harm.
You can read more about child protection procedures here and care proceedings here.
I would advise you to ask for the opinion reportedly expressed by the solicitors (and in your previous post you suggested that the social worker for your partner's children was also present) to be given to you directly and in writing. You should also seek words of advice (again in writing) from a duty social worker in your own local authority before making your decision about the holiday so that you are demonstrating that your son’s safety and wellbeing are your priority.
Best wishes,
Suzie
Thank you for the further information you have provided. I can see that you are taking time over this decision.
It’s still a good idea to discuss your plan for the holiday with your partner with children’s services as suggested above.
If I am reading your post correctly you write that your partner is on bail for charges of grievous bodily harm and neglect of his children; that his children are not living with him at present following the children’s services intervention, but he is hoping to have them back in his care in the future.
You are saying that as you will be always supervising your son when you are on holiday you can ensure his safety. You also say that it has been reported to you by your partner that both his solicitor and the solicitor representing the local authority involved with his children have advised that there are no restrictions in place that would prevent you going on the holiday with your son.
You say that if the charges against your partner are not continued your partner will have his children back in his care, but I have to point out that this is not how child protection procedures or care proceedings work.
Decisions about criminal proceedings are based on whether there is evidence available that could result in a conviction, but child protections decisions are based on whether a child has suffered or could potentially suffer significant harm.
You can read more about child protection procedures here and care proceedings here.
I would advise you to ask for the opinion reportedly expressed by the solicitors (and in your previous post you suggested that the social worker for your partner's children was also present) to be given to you directly and in writing. You should also seek words of advice (again in writing) from a duty social worker in your own local authority before making your decision about the holiday so that you are demonstrating that your son’s safety and wellbeing are your priority.
Best wishes,
Suzie
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