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CGDD2
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Child protection and family contact

Unread post by CGDD2 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:59 pm

Quick overview, my childrens dad assaulted me twice, both under the influence of drink, after the first time we got back together and were put onto a child in need plan whilst he got help with his mental health, he then got drunk again and assaulted me again, and as a result social services escalated it to child protection until they can be sure we wont get back together ( child protection or not my mind was made up the second he did it again )
Now for him to have supervised contact he has to complete relationship courses and attend drug and alcohol courses, his mum will be doing the supervised contact, and she has had to have a dbs done for this to happen, which i can sort of understand as a risk assessment needs to be thorough,
The children were placed onto child protection with a full house vote of "Risk of emotional abuse"
They have no safeguarding concerns regarding myself, however, what i dont understand is why nobody is allowed to look after my children if im not present? Not even friends who are not anything to do with my ex, whoever i want to care for my children even for an hour or two they have to have a dbs check, i am absolutely exhausted, i have newborn twins and other children, i havent had a full nights sleep in months, i get no break from them, my exs mum is allowed to visit us but her nor anybody else is allowed to look after them for me whilst i get some sleep/rest, the social worker i have just explains this as "local authority rules"
Is this right? How can this be right? I am mentally and physically drained and have been waiting for months for my exs mums dbs to be completed and even then he will only be allowed 2hrs supervised per week, why am i not allowed to arrange my own childcare for them if there are no other concerns and it doesnt involve them coming into contact with him? And is there anything i can do to challenge this? I feel like im just going to burn myself out and ironically iv never felt so controlled or isolated in my life since being on the child protection plan, i just cant get my head around a safe family member not being allowed to help me with one decent nights sleep 😔

Bossman1959
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Re: Child protection and family contact

Unread post by Bossman1959 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:29 pm

Hi there I am not an expert, i have seen Social services in action as far as child protection goes. We had the same kind of issue, but only if the children were not in the family home. So my home and my daughters home were assessed for saftey.

It sounds to me as if they are asking the impossible,to be awake when babies are awake and sleep when they do. If it was only twin babies that would not be so bad.

You mention other children, are they of school age, as we are currently on holidays that doesnt help however when back at school you may be able to grab a rest when the twins sleep.

If not school age maybe a nursery, this may sound a little wierd but ask the social worker how she/he would manage to do what is expected of you. If they dont know then maybe ask them to help you work it out, after all it is thier rule. I will make some checks but i dont think they can dictate who you get to look after the children, for to do so in my opinion is breaching your parental resposability.

In the mean time try to arrange your sleep to the childrens. Go to bed when they do, and keep posative that things will sort themselves out..

Hope that helps.

CGDD2
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Re: Child protection and family contact

Unread post by CGDD2 » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:22 am

Hi, yes they are of school age and all have had/have got the viruses too, i dont think iv slept for more than half an hour for well over a month, social have said theyre referring me for some support with the twins so that i can get some rest for an hour or two, but this referral has not yet followed through, and as i said, there are no other safety concerns regarding any of them, no neglect, no physical abuse, no emotional abuse as such, just the "risk of it" should i get back together with their dad, which is not going to happen,
Im just so exhausted and have so many friends that could help out but arnt allowed unless relevent checks have been made ( i should add, these friends are people who work in hospitals and schools and have relevant up to date dbs certificates but social have said they would still need to complete their own, which will take weeks 🤕) thankyou for your reply, and thankyou for trying to find out more information on this, as im just at a loss with it, we have a CP review coming up in the next few months so im hoping and praying they will see that iv left the relationship for good and will drop it back down to a child in need so that im given a little bit more freedom and can finally allow people to help me out again!

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Suzie, FRG Adviser
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Re: Child protection and family contact

Unread post by Suzie, FRG Adviser » Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:34 pm

Dear CGDD2

Welcome to the forum and thank you for your post. My name is Suzie, I am an online adviser and will be responding to your two posts today.

I am sorry to hear of your distress. It is has been a very stressful time for you. You are caring for your young twins and other children whilst trying to work with children’s services to keep your children safe from harm. I hope the information provided is helpful to you.

Your children are placed on a child protection plan under the category of emotional abuse due to domestic abuse from your ex-partner to you. You have separated and your ex partner’s mother is in the process of being checked as a suitable person to supervise contact between the children and their father. This will offer you some respite but is taking a considerable amount of time which is frustrating for you as you are sleep deprived and in need of support now. You have many friends that can support you with child care now but children services are saying that only people approved by them are allowed to do this. You are seeking advice regarding their stance.

I will assume that you have made the social worker aware of your need for some child care support now to enable you to get some rest. If this is not the case I suggest you do so in writing to her and the other professionals involved in the child protection plan and Core Group meetings. Sleep deprivation can result in exhaustion and raised anxiety and it is important that professionals are made fully aware of why you need child care support at this stressful time. Hopefully they will have knowledge of and can explore with you whether there are any school breakfast and/or after school clubs for the children. Whether there is potential for a registered child minder to provide child care now and in the longer term. This could potentially be the swiftest way to secure some immediate support. A childminder would have safeguarding checks already in place. Further to explore what other facilities are available in your area, such as Children’s Centres and Home Start centres. You do not need to wait for the next Core Group meeting to do this.

The children are subject to a child protection plan. Under this framework, children’s services to not have any legal authority to enforce their request. However, it is important for you to know that should you not follow their request, they may escalate the matter. We would advise you to work with children’s services to demonstrate you willingness to prioritise the children. We have a ‘top tips’ guide to working with social workers and you can find the link HERE.

I would suggest you speak to the social worker to ask for a family group conference. A family group conference is a family-led decision-making meeting. A child’s wider family and support network come together to develop a plan to support a child and keep them safe. This network may include grandparents, aunts and uncles and sometimes close family friends. The meeting is supported and facilitated by a trained and skilled independent coordinator. They help the family prepare for the meeting and attend to support.

You say it was agreed that the social worker would refer you to a support service but a referral has not been followed through. I suggest you email the social worker and other members of the Core Group to query why the referral is yet to be made and to ask for a response in writing.

Whilst you say you have many friends that could offer support, I would suggest that you put forward say, the ‘top’ three who you feel are the most suitable and ask the social worker to assess them as a priority and to ask for a timescale for this to avoid drift. It may be that if they already have a DBS in place, seeking another one quickens the process.

Lastly, if you feel the child protection plan is subject to drift and you are not being provided with the support which has been agreed within the child protection plan, you may wish to make a formal complaint. I have added a link HERE which offers advice and guidance regarding this.

You do not say how long the children have been subject to a plan. Whilst children’s services have not raised concerns regarding your day to day parenting, they are concerned that you may be vulnerable to spotting the signs of domestic abuse and of resuming your relationship with your ex-partner. Given this they are likely to want to see change over a sustained period of time. Whilst I cannot say whether the children will be stepped down to a child in need plan at the next review child protection conference , it would be a good idea to link into a domestic abuse programme, such the Freedom Project for support and to evidence change, if you have not already done so.

I hope you find the information helpful. You can ring our freephone advice line to discuss this with an adviser if you would like to; our number is 0808 8010366 and we are open from 9.30 am to 3.00 pm, Monday to Friday (except bank holidays). Or of course, you can post again on here if you need further advice.
Best wishes, Suzie.

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